Slideshow, Food and Fun in JTree



  • Just found out yesterday that Cliffhanger Guides in Joshua Tree is hosting a Dean Fidelman slide show on November 23, from 5-10p.m. From what I understand food is included. For more information contact cliffhangerguides@gmail.com or call 760-401-5033. If you pre-pay it's $25, at the door it's $30. God willing and the creek don't rise I am planning on going. It should be a blast!



  • Where is the event
    location?



  • @LynneLeicht

    Sounds sweet. DF is a good presenter.



  • @Happiegrrrl It's in Josh. Seth hasn't, as far as I know, announced where it will be. Tickets are $25 pre-paid
    and $30 at the door.



  • @LynneLeicht You know what would be great fun? Let's try to make this a get together for the climbing community, a launch point for the two new forums. We are connecting here and on FB, but in my opinion not quickly enough. We are losing the greats that built the foundation of the climbing community. It would be awesome if people would come to this event and make it a cool gathering of the community. We need to have fun and appreciate each other while we are still able to.



  • @LynneLeicht Thanks for your thoughts, but I am arse-deep in obligations in snowy-Idaho.

    Have fun without our snow & cold.

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  • I'll likely not be that far cross country by the 23rd, but if I am, I may come out there before settling in at Quartzsite. I miss JT.



  • @FritzRay -- hey there, say, fritz! -- wow, you AR a starting, now... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ we-- well, we got our first hinted-flurries... in the rain, today...



  • tl;dr-- Build it and they will come is not enough. If RPU Climber Forums wants to grow we need more of the folks already here posting up quality climbing content that inspires others to join up and become a part of our community.

    @LynneLeicht IMHO, it is not so much sheer numbers, as quantity matters most for the big data and ad driven economy sites, but rather a shortage of quality content (contrasted w/the "me too, hello, keep in touch, naked links with zero added value discussion or analysis, near zero actual content tweet type posts) being posted at RPU.

    While the FB group has unfortunately splintered the community this may not necessarily be bad because if FB is your thing then it is probably best you stay there rather than polluting RPU with FB style shite. To put it another way, FB and RPU cater to different niches: FB to those who prefer noise over signal, and RPU to those who favor signal over noise. No way RPU will ever come anywhere near close to competing w/FB for the first group,but we can damn well kick FB's arse on the latter.

    Which brings us to the crux of the real issue here: if you enjoy reading e.g. @Scole and @FritzRay (and a too short list including a few others - you know who you are) superb high quality, high signal contributions then at least some of the rest of y'all need to start stepping up and invest more effort in sharing your stories before the comparatively small population of those who are become burned out and give up on RPU. I know, @Scole in particular has repeatedly expressed a desire for such. They gave generously to you: now it is your turn give back.

    I get it, folks are busy, have other things to do and composing such content takes time. Moreover, to be clear: I am not advocating some kind of control freak position where "hello, how are you doing, good to see you here, and quick one off" posts are outlawed, as those certainly do nurture community building. That said, "keeping touch with friends" posts are of minimal interest to potential new members who are not already a part of our community. Hence, if RPU wants to grow as a community we need to also compliment those with a greater volume high quality actual climbing and trip report type content to inspire new members to join us. And as many of us are geezers with plenty of stories and time on our hands...

    I am confident this will happen. Just a bit slower than I'd initially imagined. But it will. Because sharing what they have is what real climbers do. Or at least those of us who remember what it was like to choose to live in the dirt for extended periods so we could pursue our passion of moving over stone.

    I busted butt building it. You came and staked out your forty acres. Time to harness up that mule and get to plowing and planting if you want to reap a nice harvest.

    As for the pot calling the kettle black aspect of this: I would love to be posting up some stories but I have been a busy boy w/the backend aspects of RPU, moving Teamcool Networks to a new cloud provider, and moving house.

    P.S.; For those who may feel less than comfortable as wordsmiths, see e.g. @NickG "Van Build" thread for an example of telling an extended and interesting story using pictures.



  • @Happiegrrrl That would be awesome if you can. I plan on being there and it would be great to see you again. And Toby, I don't think FB splinters our community. I don't see how those on it, if they also joined here, would pollute RPU. It's not a who is better situation for me. I am on both and enjoy both. You have done a fantastic job putting this together and like kids, give it time to grow and for people to get used to the format and how to do things such as post pics etc. FB has been around quite a while and it's comfortable for people to use. Long day, don't know if this makes sense. Cheers All, lynnie



  • @LynneLeicht Part of my reply was in response to some folks who've lamented the FB group's existence as having divided the community and spread it to an inferior platform. Their words. Yeah, several people have expressed such laments to me independently of each other. To wit, in case it was not clear: My use of the word "pollution" was referencing the type of content reportedly typically posted there, not the group members themselves.

    I don't do FB at all and have no clue what goes on with that group, only that these same folks also complain that it is lame. You are correct, however, in that I should not judge, especially off of second hand info. I guess when you have multiple people expressing similar sentiments it is easy to be tempted to drop into crowd think. My bad.



  • Too far away for me... getting ready to hunker down for winter .. and I never got the JT feaverโ€ฆ. wish I knew where the FB page was....



  • @NickG Forum Search is your friend. A few links to it have been posted in various threads hereabouts if'n RPU isn't floatin' yer' boat.... Once again, I don't do FB so don't have it bookmarked. ๐Ÿ•



  • @NickG Supertaco Refugee's. I share this forum with them also. Redpoint has the ability to have a real dedicated Thread for separate trip reports, and other thread topics more like ST had. FB can't do this very well, at least in my opinion.



  • just looking for people. wish they would come over here. its takes more than just a few active posters to make a community. the name is unfourtunate. redpoint pretty much alienates anyone over 50... also dislike the format of all the catagories. takes too much time and splinters the conversation. one big category was actually part of the tacos brilliance as much as many of you hated it.. it worked. I almost never go past our off belay forum . it's my form of protest and I don't have the time to open a bunch of different pages to see whats going on.



  • @NickG said in Slideshow, Food and Fun in JTree:

    and I don't have the time to open a bunch of different pages to see whats going on.

    You don't have to open them all. Just check the "unread" icon at the top of the page and have a quick look through what has been posted since you last checked in. Sure, it takes a minute or two to click on the posts you aren't interested in so that "unread" doesn't fill with a hundred things, but it gives you a very quick look at what's going on.

    As to the name, well, really, who cares. I'm so far past 50 that I can't even see it in the rearview mirror, and the only thing I redpoint these days is the blue route at the gym, but this seems like a pretty good place. Might be better if some younger folks joined in, but that takes time. Neither rec.climbing nor supertopo blossomed into full flower overnight -- it took time for both to fill up with interested and interesting folks.

    Will that happen here? I don't know. All I can say is that I like what you post and hope you keep posting it.

    Here's one to keep the stoke -- for both climbing and posting -- alive:

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  • @David-Harris said in Slideshow, Food and Fun in JTree:

    @NickG said in Slideshow, Food and Fun in JTree:

    and I don't have the time to open a bunch of different pages to see whats going on.

    You don't have to open them all. Just check the "unread" icon at the top of the page and have a quick look through what has been posted since you last checked in. Sure, it takes a minute or two to click on the posts you aren't interested in so that "unread" doesn't fill with a hundred things, but it gives you a very quick look at what's going on.

    Additionally, after you've finished reading the posts which trip your trigger, click on the "Mark as Read" pull down menu and select "All". You'll never have to see the uninteresting stuff in your "Unread" view again. ๐Ÿ˜‰



  • not that Im not interested just liked it better all in one place. anyways no biggie. I like the place and hope more folks show up and stay even though I have little intrest in redpointing these days. I am just happy to get up it ๐Ÿ™‚



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    My 2nd ice lead of the season last year. Will be lucky to climb anything harder than grade 3 this year unless something drastic changes with my shoulder...โ€ฆ.


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