New BC Ski Rig



  • So, my BC ski rig was lost when I moved from CA to Little Rock. Old rig was Karhu 10th Mountains, Garmont Excursions, Voile bindings. Seems 3-pin BC skiing is a dying market. Not much out there these days, Surfed the interweb for a few days and here is what I ended up with:

    Madshus Epoch Skis, 185cm (I’m 5′-9″, 150 lbs,)

    https://www.amazon.com/Madshus-Epoch-Skis-Black-Size/dp/B01IR50KSQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwusrtBRBmEiwAGBPgE5eWXtL9ApkGti5uyJGYUtjMaKwsOqf5p2_c7UtWKA2QXTYItx2PsBoCbJcQAvD_BwE&hvadid=174207553577&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9025807&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1o3&hvqmt=b&hvrand=9664106296830414087&hvtargid=aud-647846986441%3Akwd-20400642365&hydadcr=9377_9621494&keywords=madshus%2Bepoch&qid=1572032718&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1

    Voile 3-Pin Cable Telemark Bindings

    https://www.backcountry.com/voile-3-pin-cable-telemark-binding

    Alpina Alaska 75mm Boots.

    https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=184

    The boots are a big question mark. Had to buy them on the net. Hate buying footwear without trying it on. But it seems 75mm 3-pin boots are really hard to find these days. Not much out there. Here’s hoping.

    The skis and boots are discontinued models. Seems 3 pin BC skiing is becoming out of vogue.

    Anybody got any recommendations for skins? Damn, those things are pricey these days.



  • @johntp Ha! Weird to the max. My first two thoughts on reading this were: "Huh? BC now has its own ski rig?" And "WTF? I thought John was American."

    You have to forgive me. I spent a couple of happy decades skiing in the mountains based out of my then home town of Vancouver, in the Canadian province of British Columbia -- which no Canadian ever refers to as anything other than... yeah "BC"

    Took me a while to figure out what you were talking about. I mean, sure, everybody knows that the skiing in BC is better than anywhere else in the world, but what does a Californian now living in Arkansas know about that? Did he spend all his winters in the Bugaboos? Or high in the Coast Range?

    But eventually the meaning seeped in: BC ≠ "British Columbia". In your post, BC = "Back Country". Okay, I'm slow. But I got there eventually.

    Unfortunately, I can't help. My BC skiing switched from 3-pin to Randonée about a million years ago, and even my Randonée gear is generations out of date. But good luck.

    And, to fuel your stoke, Here's the BC in BC...

    Coast mountains in winter.jpg



  • @David-Harris -- say, lovely photo! 🙂



  • @David-Harris said in New BC Ski Rig:

    @johntp Ha! Weird to the max. My first two thoughts on reading this were: "Huh? BC now has its own ski rig?" And "WTF? I thought John was American."

    Unfortunately, I can't help. My BC skiing switched from 3-pin to Randonée about a million years ago, and even my Randonée gear is generations out of date. But good luck.

    HaHa!!

    Nah, I'm talking BackCountry touring, not skiing up to descend the steeps. Something a wee bit more challenging than hiking on snow with skinny skis, but not seeking the steep descents. AT/Randonee is not my thing.

    Funny thing is I never learned to do a "telemark" turn. I developed my own technique on three pins which is best described as a hybrid snowplow/parallel turn. Kinda funky, but it works for me.

    My playground was the eastern sierra. Spent some time in the hills with Doug Robinson, John Moynier and a few others. Doug pretty much schooled me in sierra touring.

    Here's a pick of his cabin at Rock Creek Lake; prolly already been posted on the random photo thread:

    Doug Robinsons Cabin at Rock Creek Lake.jpg



  • Neptune Mountaineering still carries a complement of backcountry touring skis, boots and bindings. And, yes, we are the last and only (I think) shop in the country that still offers waxable B/C skis. We bring them in direct from Norway because none of the major s
    ki companies bring them into the country any more.

    We have 75mm leather boots from Crispi and Alpina and bindings from Voile.

    The snow is falling and he touring is going off so get your ass out here and try on some boots.

    Mal



  • @MalDaly

    Would that I could. What do you think of the Alpina Alaska 75mm? If it fits, looks like the right boot for my purposes.

    Also, I've been asked why I went 3 pin in lieu of NNN. My perception is 3 pins allow better downhill control. Never used NNN, so I dunno.



  • @MalDaly You should posts this summary in the Gearhead forum, just so folks know for the future. Be a bit more visible there, eh?

    @johntp You lived Sierra East Side? Do you know Urmas?



  • @toby said in New BC Ski Rig:

    @johntp You lived Sierra East Side? Do you know Urmas?

    Didn't live there, but spent a lot of time there. It's a long story, met Doug thru friends and ended up hanging with him and the Bishop locals a lot.

    Would have loved to have lived on the east side.



  • John? I used to tele-ski a lot, but haven't since 2005 & now I am suddenly 70 year old & have developed a severe allergy to snow, cold feet, runny noises, & fogged goggles. I still have my large duffle of tele boots & clothing. I think we gave my ancient Atomic tele skis away. Anyway, I have a pair of 3-pin leather Asolo Extreme boots in great shape, & a much newer AD 2002 pair of plastic boots. I can't think of the brand. I'm happy to give you either or both of those for the cost of Priority Mail shipping to you, if my average feet match yours?

    I didn't see your foot size in any of your posts? Are you willing to share that private & sensitive information?



  • @FritzRay

    Thanks for the offer, I've got some boots on order. Depending on if they fit or not, I may take you up on it iff'n they are size 41-42 ish.



  • Big Sky Mountain Products has the best value for skins.
    Made in Montana by skiers.

    I've used BD and G3 skins in the past, and the BSMP are better quality wise (esp. glue) and certainly cheaper.

    Big Sky Mountain Products



  • @WyoRockMan

    Thanks man. Good to see you posting up on this forum.



  • John, I have those same bindings. Love them!. too bad I am not in love with the skis they are on or the beat out boots I have....



  • @NickG said in New BC Ski Rig:

    John, I have those same bindings. Love them!. too bad I am not in love with the skis they are on or the beat out boots I have....

    The Alpina Alaska boots are really nice. Haven't actually used them yet (dammit), but they fit well. Softer than the Asolo Extremes in the upper, but seem to have enough torsional rigidity to get the job done going down while being more comfortable skinning up.

    The Madshus skis are pretty sweet as well. Same as the Karhu 10th Mountains.


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