*{=~)Twisted `n Lit(~Bj*



  • Fake Wake with Hate switch strains

    I have no reason to hate anyone

    even than though yooz made that mistake

    If I could I would and I did for 40 years son

    I've got one and a daughter too

    No simpleton, like yooz. Why have you

    bothered to register an opinion ?

    I don't care that you don't care to share in any of what I'm having

    You aren't worthy of having any of what I'm having.

    I'm having none of it ~ A veritable dearth of all things

    Though I am Glad to gain any views that even negative input might bring

    I've been around this same toilet bowl before

    filled with words of peevish discontent

    That fall short `nd get flushed away with mockery

    They do allow me to exercise my word-play

    and so wipe clean the entrance of the sphincter

    Some knowz I have a verbose way of saying to

    Gedda`da Phuza Oot Yooz Wieze of Ooz,

    Why The Figure 8 device fell out of favor.

    I think that it is debatable whether this event can be blamed on cross-loading or not.

    As in so many cases, multiple things combined to create a 'perfect storm'.
    It is a failure, where many parts tragically combined leading to a fatality.

    http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=664763;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

    An unfortunate fatality from a stupid sport rappelling incident that led to a lawsuit against, HB (Hugh Banner Climbing)
    & REI(Recreational Equipment Inc)
    for not having included a warning that the weakest point of the locking 'biner was at the opening. Failing (to inward pressure) at substantially lower force load levels than anywhere else on the carabiner.
    The lawsuit was apparently settled with no award for punitive damages.

    The specific facts included that during an improperly rigged face-first descent; "Aussie" style,

    The figure-8 rappel device, rigged so that the rope did not pass around the 8,
    instead was rigged in "sport mode".

    So was able to move into a position where it may have levered against the locking sleeve, breaking it & opening the gate.

    This point of failure while clearly common sense was shown to be so much weaker in numerous ways that the case did gain traction.

    The main take away from the story:
    don't sport rappel,
    don't 'Aussie rap',
    & if you do 'Aussie' or 'Assault' rap with a fig8 & 'biner
    do not use an improperly rigged fig8 in sport mode
    (rope through 'biner, not around the '8' device)
    so decreasing friction to increase speed while sport rappelling,
    and do not sport rappel without redundancy !
    or maybe one of these

    An example of a beefed-up, 'Auto-lockin' (self-locking) gate sleeve.
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    At first, to try to keep the fig8 device relevant, smaller holes &
    additions of a nylon 'plug' to hold the locking'biner in-place
    were added to a short-lived next generation of fig8's.
    Allowing some companies to sell off their stockpiles of the device.

    This incident and the lawsuit it generated,
    along with the propensity of the fig8 to twist the cord,
    where the main factors leading to the near-complete abandonment
    of the use of figure-8 devices in rock climbing.
    This lawsuit may have contributed to the demise of HB.



  • Gnome person,
    The first part of your response is not one I would expect to hear around a climbers campfire, digital or otherwise, clearly I should refrain from teasing you?
    Interesting second part to your post though, I met HB when he and party were retreating off the Salathe, nice guy who gave us some water.



  • @wakeandbake said in *{=~)Twisted'n`Lit(~Bj*:
    Teasing is best served with sugar =7 up votes!
    the down vote is never welcome
    others won't - I would not - but yooz did?

    Interesting second part to your post though, I met HB when he and party were retreating off the Salathe, nice guy who gave us some water.

    Wow, meeting "The Engineer"
    That must have been excellent.
    HB was a guiding light in the limitations of small "Jingus-ness"
    & Thanx-be I was able to lead some serious & otherwise unprotectable things
    following his well & true philosophy: "Place our Brass & Save your ass"

    Terrapin Station - 7/22/84 Ventura
    & Ventura 3 years in a row
    7-13-85 Ventura County Fairgrounds Ventura CA



  • @The-Gnome said in *{=~)Twisted'n`Lit(~Bj*:

    teasing is best served with sugar =7 up votes!
    the down vote is never welcome
    others won't - I would not - but yooz did?

    Ain't me babe.
    I think HB might have been channelling Roland Paulick of RP fame who used a similar slogan and rolled his rigs out late 70's



  • @wakeandbake said

    Ain't me babe.
    I think HB might have been channelling Roland Paulick of RP fame who used a similar slogan and rolled his rigs out late 70's

    It was an ever so subtle change to the RP that brought about a huge gain;
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    three sides all the same; top, bottom & back
    but
    The two faces shaved! . . . . off-sets
    & the way that they set in pin scars

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    I owe my life to a #3 HB off-set .

    Switching it up-@=;(~)
    As well & good as climbing in California was for me
    It was the Promised land - no doubt
    Then also
    Summer Shows were an integral part
    The Eel River Jerry Shows '87-'91
    Jerry Garcia Band - August 29, 1987 - French's Camp - Garberville, California

    Blue Grass festivals; fast fingers, pickin', fiddlin `n grinnin'
    @={(~)Ripple
    The Tuttles, 'Mo', Sully, Michael & Aj Lee have been playin' together since they were 10-year old kids
    Here with an amazing group of kids -
    Including Sarah Jarosz,(of Prarie Home Companion & the band, I'm With Her)
    As well as Ruby Jane Smith playin the 'under-chin guitar(violin)
    & Sierra Hull with savant-like, Mando playing , just to name a few
    Wayfaring Stranger
    That gives me
    Pins & Needles
    & it is not just the girls
    They are all spectacularly talented, heavily trained & have been playin' 'Out' for over a decade
    Tell It to Me
    You can hear it in 'Dylan' covers
    they take practice & talent
    It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry
    Really this is as good as you will ever see it done
    The original appeared on the 1965 Bob Dylan album Highway 61 Revisited
    "From A Buick 6,"

    A code I'd moved to drafts with no attribution as to what it was of
    or where had I planned to place it?
    Was it @FritzRay'sThe Ying-Yang thread? From the looks of it
    a version must already reside at the Faces in nature page.

    IMG_3328 (4).JPG
    was it just me that enjoyed having a photo gallery?



  • @The-Gnome said in *{=~)Twisted `n Lit(~Bj*:

    three sides all the same; top, bottom & back
    but
    The two faces shaved! . . . . off-sets
    & the way that they set in pin scars

    Yes for pin scars they are the ticket, maybe its just habbit but i find i can wiggle an RP into more placements than an HB. Could be the nature of the granite beast though?



  • @The-Gnome

    Ye' think ye' be missing some photo gallery action, eh?

    Uhhh... RPU is presently hosting over 1K photos scattered about various nooks and crannies.... 📷 ⛰ 🐈 🌆 🐕 🍰 🥘 🎨



  • @toby
    I notice that some platforms have a dedicated 'Photo Gallery"
    a thread that just collects photos, that can then be checked separately, linking to the post....

    Daisy, a wonderful dog20141116_3236_747x803.jpg

    @wakeandbake ~, In those sizes, I carried all sorts of types, Anchors were rounded on all but one facet
    & other types of steel, brass & aluminum
    that I often "nested" one on top of another.



  • @The-Gnome No need to duplicate several other gallery sites. Kind of a waste of bandwidth and storage resources for a small time operator climbing site, don't you agree?

    I guess I could pull a fast one and amend the terms of service such that y'all retain copyright but grant me the right to use and sell so I could then rip ya' off and parlay RPU into the next Getty Images? Now where's my business planner? Get a team of legal eagles to draw up some fine print. Now that's entrepreneurial. And y'all thought I was some kind of hippie,eh? Viva the American Dream, Baby!!

    Hmmm... Gonna also need some VC capital to fund the servers, storage, bandwidth and hip, cool Silicon Valley orifices. Oh wait, the VC's would just squeeze me out of the deal, take over everything and I'd be screwed, blued, and tattooed. Never mind.

    Edit:



  • @toby,
    My thoughts on "missing the Gallery feature?" at 1st I didn't notice it at all.
    Then, (after joining the Darkside) I realized that we don't have a gallery.

    I really only just noticed it when I couldn't find a picture.
    I thought that I had added it here,
    but it seems I took it down.
    Anyway,
    I find that it is all the more fun to look around to see what everyone is sharing,







  • @zBrown
    Twisted & Lit, .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ... ... ... .. _ _ _ _ _ That is a Light fixture .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. in the corner of the picture >
    BobBoyleSHiSchL1st Door_ 79.jpg ( Original Black & White Picture; Posted "Full Size")
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    Surfer, Pro-Skater (Logan EarthSki'78) Bob Boyle running under yours-truly - 17' up the corner, outside "The 1st door "Buzz Hill" Summit High School 1979.

    Literature but not Gaspull,

    Last Takeoff from the Moon - Apollo 17's Lunar Module blastoff !
    department of disinformation & injustice has 2 good lights



    Johnathan Nabut, "Photo Opportunity Wall" The Blue Gus Chimney, Green Pond NJ. 1982
    Johnathan Nabitt BGC,GrnPnd-82.jpg

    But not the pic from '79 ?

    ![0_1565477830316_BobBoyle1st Door'79.jpg](Uploading 100%)

    ![0_1565478685127_Yosemite-The Gang-3-FB-BryKay.jpg](Uploading 100%)

    The Gang at the base of "Green Dragon" Glacier Point Apron, Center of the Universe '86(
    Yosemite-The Gang-3-FB-BryKay459x422.jpg


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